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03-10-2010, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 5-90
there are threads going on several other boards that I frequent about how circumcision should be allowed, how it should be mandated, and how it should be banned. And the ones that want it banned aren't bad enough - they always end up kicking up a ****estorm by wanting to ban it for everyone - which usually ends up with one religion starting a war against another one.
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The funny thing I've found about that is that it's almost always people who haven't had it done that make the most noise about how it shouldn't be done. If it were so bad wouldn't the people who have had it done be screaming the loudest???
Just something I've noticed...
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03-15-2010, 01:41 PM
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#482
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Originally Posted by 5-90
You know what I hate? I hate when people try to impose their beliefs on everyone. Whether it's because "It's what God wants" (religion) or because "We know what's best for you" (politicians.)
And then the debates that rage. Good Lord man - there are threads going on several other boards that I frequent about how circumcision should be allowed, how it should be mandated, and how it should be banned. And the ones that want it banned aren't bad enough - they always end up kicking up a ****estorm by wanting to ban it for everyone - which usually ends up with one religion starting a war against another one.
Sometimes I just want to shoot everyone and start over, y'know? The worst part about the whole deal is that both sides want laws to cover their 'respective' points of view. Like we need any more laws...
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The separation of church and state protects the covenant. I don't understand what the big deal is. You want it? Sweet! You don't? Sweet!
What a man and his willy have got to do with me is beyond my comprehension.
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03-15-2010, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by SMXJ
The separation of church and state protects the covenant. I don't understand what the big deal is. You want it? Sweet! You don't? Sweet!
What a man and his willy have got to do with me is beyond my comprehension.
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Do you know where the phrase "separation of Church and State" came from?
One line from a letter to a Baptist minister that was concerned about the Federal Government doing a "Church of England" deal on American citizens; establishing a government run denomination.
And Jefferson said it couldn't happen according to the Constitution and the Bill of Rights
Circumcision was an outward ritual to be done by the Hebrews as a sign of faithfulness in Jehovah. It doesn't apply to anyone else in a religious sense.
But, in a medical sense, it reduced disease transmission among the Hebrews by letting the genital area be kept cleaner.
Many of those old Hebrew laws allowed them to enjoy a healthier life than their neighbors ... which allowed Abraham's small tribe to grow into a powerful nation in just a few hundred years.
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03-16-2010, 10:03 PM
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whoa thats a lot of stuff i dont understand haha
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03-16-2010, 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by jason_93xj
whoa thats a lot of stuff i dont understand haha
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In a nutshell:
The ancient Hebrews had hygiene levels ten times higher than anyone else of the era.
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03-17-2010, 07:47 AM
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03-17-2010, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by 88fadedglory
Do you know where the phrase "separation of Church and State" came from?
One line from a letter to a Baptist minister that was concerned about the Federal Government doing a "Church of England" deal on American citizens; establishing a government run denomination.
And Jefferson said it couldn't happen according to the Constitution and the Bill of Rights
Circumcision was an outward ritual to be done by the Hebrews as a sign of faithfulness in Jehovah. It doesn't apply to anyone else in a religious sense.
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Hence the reference to the covenant.
The separation of church and state is not only to prevent the head of state from also being the head of religion, but also to not discriminate against one religion by stipulating the state does not endorse any religion.
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03-17-2010, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by SMXJ
Hence the reference to the covenant.
The separation of church and state is not only to prevent the head of state from also being the head of religion, but also to not discriminate against one religion by stipulating the state does not endorse any religion.
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Congatulations!!!!
You understand the concept far better than the majority of our current elected officials.
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03-17-2010, 01:18 PM
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Isn't that a shame. You know what I hate or strongly dislike? Politicians
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03-17-2010, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by SMXJ
Isn't that a shame. You know what I hate or strongly dislike? Politicians
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Me? Just the ones that want to make the government bigger than neccessary
and take away my guns and my fishin hole and . . . . . .
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03-17-2010, 03:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SMXJ
Isn't that a shame. You know what I hate or strongly dislike? Politicians
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03-17-2010, 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 88fadedglory
Me? Just the ones that want to make the government bigger than neccessary
and take away my guns and my fishin hole and . . . . . .
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I've never ran into a single one when I was fishing, or one that offered me a gun. I stand by my statement, and no Budd I don't hate you. The only thing I hate are squirrels in my yard and even then I'm not to proactive about getting them out. Let them have the trees I just wish they would leave the garden alone.
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03-17-2010, 06:37 PM
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I really hate this damn cold I hate right now!
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03-18-2010, 09:51 PM
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#494
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Jr Member
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haha ill restate what i sadi before, i hate new noises!!!!!
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03-19-2010, 01:40 PM
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#495
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I hate them too but what are you going to do about it?
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