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My girlfriend's mom's 2000 Grand Cherokee Limited is having an AC issue...
The AC system is the one with the separate temperatures settings for the driver and passenger sides. One moment the AC will be running just fine, and then it just stops blowing air, but electronically everything is on and lit up. Any ideas/suggestions?
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it could be the refrigerant wearing out. Its the most common problem with AC
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No, I mean it literally stops blowing air. The airflow from the vents stops. The only way to get it to blow again is to shut it off and restart, and then it happens all over again.
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thats odd. maybe its the climate control...
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yea i heard the ac goes out all the time on the dual climate control models i'll ask my buddy if he figured out how to fix his and let you know
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Just be careful with who does the work. my cousin had a 03 GC with the climate control and they took out his whole dash and then fixed it, but then the dash squeaked and rattled.
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Check you're wiring harness that goes into the blower motor resistor block/blower motor controller. The harness is known to get hot and melt to the block/controller. Normally causes intermittent operation, then eventually no air at all...
![]() ![]() ![]() If this is your problem, the harness repair kit is Mopar Part Number: 05102406AA. ![]() Later.
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Oh, it's under the dash on the passenger side...You can see it hanging down without taking anything apart.
You can also check for ac fault codes using the following procedure: To enter the self-diagnostic mode: 1. Depress the a/c and recirc buttons at the same time and hold. Rotate the left temperature control knob clockwise (CW) one detent. 2. If you continue to keep the a/c and recirc buttons depressed, the AZC control module will perform a Segment Test of the Vacuum Fluorescent (VF) display. In the Segment Test you should see all of the display segments illuminate as long as both buttons are held. If a display segment fails to illuminate, the vacuum fluorescent display is faulty and the a/c heater control must be replaced. 3. After viewing the Segment Test, release the A/C and Recirc buttons and the display will clear momentarily. If a 0 is displayed, then no faults are set in the system. Should there be any faults, either current or historical, all fault codes will be displayed in ascending numerical sequence (note no effort is made to display fault codes in chronological order). Each fault code is displayed for one second before the next code is displayed. Once all fault codes have been displayed, the system will then repeat the fault code numbers. This will continue until the left side set temperature control is moved at least one detent position in the CW direction or the ignition is turned OFF.
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Here's a list of fault codes:
Current Faults Input Faults: 01 = IR thermister circuit open 02 = IR thermister circuit shorted 03 = Fan pot shorted 04 = Fan pot open 05 = Mode pot shorted 06 = Mode pot open 07 = IR sensor delta too large 08 = Reserved 09 = Reserved 10 = One of four motor drivers has drive 9A9 shorted to ground 11 = Engine air intake temperature Buss message missing 12 = Country code Buss message missing System Faults: 13 = Mode motor not responding 14 = AI (Recirc) motor not responding 15 = Left temperature door not responding 16 = Right temperature door not responding 17 = Mode door travel range too small 18 = Mode door travel range too large 19 = AI (Recirc) door travel too small 20 = AI (Recirc) door travel too large 21 = Left temperature door travel too small 22 = Left temperature door travel too large 23 = Right temperature door travel too small 24 = Right temperature door travel too large 25 = Calibration check sum error 26 = Engine coolant temp bus message missing 27 = Vehicle speed bus message missing 28 = Engine RPM bus message missing 29 = OAT bus message missing 30 = Display intensity bus message missing 31 = VIN number bus message missing 32 = Raw OAT bus message missing Historical Faults Input Faults: 33 = IR thermister circuit was open 34 = IR thermister circuit was shorted 35 = Fan pot was shorted 36 = Fan pot was open 37 = Mode pot was shorted 38 = Mode pot was open 39 = IR sensor delta was too large 40 = Reserved 41 = Reserved 42 = One of four motor drivers had drive 9A9 shorted to ground 43 = Engine air intake temperature Buss message missing 44 = Country code Buss message missing System Faults: 45 = Mode motor was not responding 46 = AI (Recirc) motor was not responding 47 = Left temperature door was not responding 48 = Right temperature door was not responding 49 = Mode door travel range too small 50 = Mode door travel range too large 51 = AI (Recirc) door travel range too small 52 = AI (Recirc) door travel range too large 53 = Left temperature door travel too small 54 = Left temperature door travel too large 55 = Right temperature door travel too small 56 = Right temperature door travel too large 57 = Calibration check sum error 58 = Engine coolant temp bus message missing 59 = Vehicle speed bus message missing 60 = Engine RPM bus message missing 61 = OAT bus message missing 62 = Display intensity bus message missing 63 = VIN number bus message missing 64 = Raw OAT bus message was missing
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I think that Craig has answered you question much better than I have.....
to you Craig!
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I do what I can...The harness was an issue I just sorted out, so I just happened to have the info fresh in my mind...
Hope the info helps you out, 2KXJ...
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Craig thanks alot! I'm putting my money on the fact that the relay/module that you pictured before is what went bad. Hopefully this will be fixed sooner than later. Thanks a bunch!
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Lets us know how it turns out. I am curious about it.
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I saw some good posts on this site and was hoping someone could venture a guess about what might be happening on my car. The AC system either works or doesn't, but when it doesn't the dashboard control completely blanks out (like no power is getting to it). Sometimes it comes back, sometimes it doesn't but it is an intermittent problem as opposed to an outright failure. The problem initially started after a radiator replacement. I notice there are two wiring harnesses near the radiator and I'm thinking they're somehow related to my AC problem, like maybe they just yanked the connectors apart instead of disconnecting them normally. Does anybody have a suggestion for why the display goes away, or know what those two wiring bundles are controlling? One of the bundles appears to go to the AC compressor so I know it's at least partially related to my problem!
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Most likely a short in the wiring somewhere...but at to where exactly? I'd start by tracing backwards from the control panel first, and see what you can find.
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