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I need a new water pump. I think everything under the hood is stock. I was thinking about a high flow and maybe replacing the radiator hoses if they don't have springs. Is there anything else I should check/clean/replace if I put the high flow in? I have no heat and I live where it gets really cold. I also noticed slight rise above 210掳 over the summer sometimes. Thinking this whole system is interrelated but I am not an engine person. What other stuff should I consider replacing with or without high flow? $$ is very hard to come by but will save for above average parts. I don't want to have anything done twice if I can help it. So what are good brands according to which pump and parts y'all recommend? Thanks 馃檪
 

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That and bc I don't want overheating problems that so many people talk about. It's just a 'should I' question. Are they better or just better for off road stuff. This is only a daily driver vehicle for me. I am missing a shroud that I will replace and someone who owned it before me lifted it. I don't think they did much under the hood but I really don't know. I don't know that they did anything but the lift underneath either. Everything's so rusty, who knows...
 

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Ok, so don't do anything fancy. There is a thermostat in there but I don't know that it's working. Was gonna boil it to find out and replace if needed. Both fans are working, just the one on passenger side is missing the shroud. This past spring, the radiator and heater core were flushed clear but the water that we used to flush and then refill was heavily iron filled well water. I didn't know that was a big no no at the time. 'Use garden hose' is the way I always heared but until I started looking into saving this truck, just recently, I didn't know to refill with distilled water. My buddy who just finished my exhaust and does most everything lives in the country and has the nasty well plus a huge garage and all the tools for most anything. I've got nothin'. I live in a small town on the edge of nowhere in a house where I rent a room that has no garage or useable driveway, I park on the street. Cop shop is on next street. Gotta be careful what I do not to draw attention. So I drive the 30 miles. It's all good except for the well water. Do you think we trashed everything with well water? He owned the truck before I did so he probably always put well water in it. He isn't the person who did the lift though, that was the guy before. I'm the 4th owner. There is no owner's manual and no records. Sorry to pick your brain so much and thank you for your previous reply. As it goes- 'the more I learn, the more I realize I know nothing'
 

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Sounds like a plan. Last questions on this sbject I think, are: who carries decent quality pumps/brands that won't break the bank and what brands are junk to avoid? I think I'm set after this.Thanks for helping me out. Much appreciated!!
 

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Wow! That is really cool! So, what are you gonna buy your jeep with the money from the coins....? 馃槃
 

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馃榿 I couldn't resist but I'm sure your son was stoked! Ordering Gates water pump, gaskets and t-stat from rock auto tomorrow. Gonna flush entire system again. No choice but the well water to flush but everything will be refilled with distilled water, best I can do. Also gonna pull guage cluster and start simple with pin cleaning and greasing. Exhaust system is done! Now I'll be able to hear the radio and if something else goes wrong anywhere. It isn't going to be quite as quiet as I thought bc at some point someone put headers on it. Probably the kid who did the lift. Seems everything is going ok at the moment but my buddy told me if I don't do something serious about the rust underneath by summer's end, my frame is done. My plan is a homemade sand blaster and por15 after. So anyway, the other stuff is gonna get done over Thanksgving weekend and I'm gonna scrimp and save all winter to do what I can to address the rust. The bottom of my doors are gone too. I'm good at bondo and it wouldn't be much of a jump to fiberglass but that is not gonna cut it. Gotta have welding but it depends on how much welding his kid feels like doing ( and too bad cuz he's good at it). I already asked him to do the rockers and he's not thrilled. It won't matter anyway if I can't save the frame. Any suggestions on all that when you (or someone) gets around to it would really help. Like how to get metal and fabricating for doors and patch parts for the frame or whatever. That way I'll have a better idea of how much money I'm gonna need. I wanna try really hard to save this thing from the junk yard. Thank you as always...馃檪
 

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I lnow, that was a long one. Dielectric grease is what I meant but I didn't know how to spell it. I'll get the ox- guard instead if it does the cleaning so I don't damage pins. I didn't do exhaust, my buddy did and he said he did not think it was original. Maybe it isn't as rusted as everything else, maybe it's got a brand on it or maybe he is wrong. If I go under there and look is there a way to know if it is the stock shorty? Thank you! 馃檪
 

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I'm sorry I didn't get an update from my buddy soon enough to post before you answered but you were totally right about the header. My buddy has a friend that is a really good full time mechanic that owns his own shop. He's super difficult to get ahold of cuz his shop is packed all the time. But they had a conversation about my truck and that header is indeed original stock. He also said if my water pump was bad it would overheat within 15 minutes of driving. Since I have no heat he thinks either my thermostat is stuck open or there is no thermostat in it. Sounds logical to me so gonna start simple here too ('kiss' right? I think my friend and I overthunk it). We'll see where it goes...I wish I had access to the mechanic but I don't and he charges top dollar for his work which I can't afford. Just lucky my friend can consult him here and there. I'll update when everything is done. Thanks for all your time & help!
 

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My friend fushed everything this past spring and back flushed too? It was all clear. We're going to do it again when we do the thermostat and new antifeeze for the whole system. No well water for the refill this time. I heared theres an additive to keep the corrosion or whatever down but I don't know if that's buffalo chips. Also, my 'friend' or 'buddy', is named Alex, so I'll refer to him as that from now on, less words. If we do all that flushing and yet the heater core could still be plugged, I'd like to get educated on that. Ty!
 

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Ok, we can try that. Now Alex didn't tell the mechanic about how the belt squeals when I first start the thing. The summer before last I got a junk yard compressor and a month later it was sqealing really bad and my belt flew off. Alternator was going bad so we replaced that and the belt. No more squealing, I had a.c. for one summer (sigh). Last time we checked, the compressor pully was still spinning freely as was everything else. We're gonna check the belt and all the pulleys again. Maybe it's the compressor so I'll do a bypass or maybe just the water pump pulley is bad. We're just gonna look around and double check things. It can't hurt, get to know the truck better, easier to see a problem next time. 馃檪
 

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True but it was good when we put the new one on then after a few weeks it needed a slight adjustment and he said he checked that the other day when he started thinking about going ahead with the water pump and trying to get ahold of his mechanic friend. We're going to take it off anyway to check it and the pullies and I really should bypass the compressor anyway, it's junk. He's had my truck for 3 weeks, I haven't seen the new exhaust or anything. I really hope he waits till this weekend to do this t-stat, flush, hoses, etc.- I'd like to be there to learn cuz I wasn't there last time either. I don't know what part of country you live in but are you getting snow this week? We might get some here.鉂
 

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How lucky! I did live in Ca. for a few years. First Culver City and then Venice. I really miss the beach and boardwalk. I was very young, it was in the 80's but I don't think I'd like that area now. Too bad what I see about Venice on YouTube these days. I was even in S.F. a few times but now that place is going down hill- poop alert app? Wth... It's still a beautiful state. I hate it here, about 40 miles north of Detroit .... just found out, there are Sequoia trees here, 3 of them, in Manistee. They're 70- 75 years old. They don't have nothin' on yours yet but it's good to know they can live this far east, I would like to go see them.Everytime I see Forrest fires out by you I worry severely about those trees. I thought the only place on U.S. where they existed was Ca. I hope you're not in one of the highly fire prone areas out there. May one never touch you. 馃檪
 

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Hey, that's great, I don't know of any redwoods here but that doesn't mean they aren't. There could be some close to any of the great lakes, hidden from the public for now. They kept those 3 sequoias secret for quite some time. Probably for the 1st 50 years. I can't remember what was said about that in the article exactly. But anyway, I gess anyone can try growing them anywhere if they get the seeds. I thought since they're endangered, the trees and their cones would be under some forestry law to where if you try to take anything you get fined or something. Like how you can get busted for taking from the petrified forrest- if that's true. 馃檪
 

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They do look like redwoods but their scent probably gives them away, very cool, thanks for the pics! Did you take those? We have cedar here but I don't know what kind exacty. It's too bad about all the brush and overgrowth. They probably can't do controlled burns anymore, to risky with drought now? What's the pay for a cone collector? I would do that! Change of plans with weather here, no snow for us, maybe some rain. I'm glad, I won't freeze my fingers off doing the guages and whatnot. Thanks again for the pics- beautiful...
 

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Can you put links here? Or do I try to find them on you tube? I'd love to watch, are you in any of them? Was that your jeep in the 1st tree pic? I really wasnt sure from the angle and mostly just the hood. I understand if you don't want to show your secret spot but I'd like to see in general the cossing you're talking about. I don't know what the Sierra club is interfering with or what their mission is but, if they're helping create the mess you showed earlier then I hope they go away.... Maybe these old growth forrests would be better protected by national park service or something even stronger. Has there ever been a chance or an movement to get them classified as national or world heritage type of designation so that they get properly cared for, for their needs and protected and preserved? What a horrible thing it would be to lose them- General Sherman comes to mind. I know the oldest redwood also has a name that starts with a T and the location of that one is secret. Do you know it's name? Ok if you don't, I can probably find it again. Anyway creek crossing vid links would be great! 馃檪
 

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That was awsome! Beautiful land, everything you could want right down to the fish fry! Nice pics of your jeep too, and if that's a little white pine, then we have twigs 馃槃 We have the Hartwick pines in Grayling that are huge and protected but most of the old growth trees are gone there too due to storms.You'd be hard pressed to find a tree older than 120 yrs here.They say America was built on Michigan lumber. Hey thanks for the vid, have a great holiday!
 

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Ok, Alex flushed, back flushed, replaced thermostat and coolant. Did all this last year too so, same thing, same result. Last year blend door and blower were working. Didn't bother with that again. Now he says one hose not getting hot but didn't specify which one, only that he doesn't know why. Not losing coolant either. It's on me to do initial research then he'll run it down. What needs to be checked if it's the upper and what else if it's the lower? Since my truck is 30 miles away, I can't see whatever he sees and it's been over there for a month. But, hey, it's getting worked on so I'm grateful. Thoughts??
 

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Yes and it's the lower hose that has no flow. Where it attaches to the water pump, that metal outlet or tube is bent but doesn't appear to be leaking. Maybe it is restricting flow? Weird. He said he will look into that bc it's gotta be plugged somewhere but he says the hoses are unobstructed. Wouldn't they get cleared during all that flushing?
 
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