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Interesting occurrence. I thought I would post this here as it applies to all vehicles.

This past weekend we lifted my son's ZJ 3". During the process I took the time to inspect his ball-joints, tie rod ends, etc. I deemed them to be worthy and although the passenger side ball-joints has some barely-noticeable play in them, they are a long way from needing replacement.


Anyway, I asked my son to take it for a proper alignment when we were done so that I knew it was all good and had been looked at by a pro. I am pretty handy around a Jeep, but I am by no means a pro.


My son is just learning and has almost no mechanical knowledge or ability at this time. (I am teaching him as we go).


So he heads off today to get it done by a shop recommended to us by other wheelers.


The guy gets the ZJ up on the hoist and my son heads off to the next shop over to pick up some new lug nuts. He gets back and the guy tells him..."I can't do the alignment at all because the ball-joints are shot and need to be replaced...". He hands my son an invoice for about $600 and says he will need to order in the parts and get'r done.


My son phoned me and reported what was said.


I told my son to go back in, tell the guy to put everything back to where it was, get the truck off the hoist and we will inspect it again ourselves and repair the ball joints ourselves. I knew the mechanic was full of it and just trying to fleece my son.


So my son told him what I had said, and then mentioned to him that I am in the local Jeep club, part of the 4 Wheel Drive Association, and a respected member of the 4x4 community and that I know my way around a Jeep.


So, 45 minutes later my son calls me again and he is very excited! He told me that the guy finished the alignment, corrected a few small issues that were not part of his package and even reversed a bolt he found tat was rubbing and causing a squeak.


Further, he discounted his rate and ate the taxes. He also asked my son not to post about it on any local sites. :)


So the moral of the story?


Spend some time getting familiar with your junk and how it works so you don't have unscrupulous mechanics trying to fleece you into premature and costly repairs.


I will actually return to that shop and use his services again, as he now knows that we are not to be fleeced and he will do his best to ensure that we drive away happy!

:cheers:
 

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its good to know people LOL, nice,,
 

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this reminds me ...haha...

i went with a friend to lookat a corolla...and the guy was trying to prove the car was in good condition..which it wasnt...so......it was all b.s..i went to my car and put my toyota shirt...and he said...oh....well...just make me a decent offer...
 

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I hate guys like that always trying to make a quick buck even if that buck doesn't need to be spent!
 

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The specs on the alignment can tell you if the camber is off and most of the time they suspect ball joints are bad. Do you have the specs? I just did my alignment after putting on drop brackets and they showed me the specs. He said the driver's side ball joints could be going and may need replaced. I told him i already did the passenger side but haven't done the driver's yet and based on the print-out specs, he was right because the driver's side ball joints were just barely within specs while the passenger side was dead on. The shop technician could have thought they needed replaced based on the camber specs. Just a thought. ;)
 

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As far as front end stuff I pretty much can do it all myself but if I have a question I ask my neighbor (whom I have known since he was in junior high) who is the manager in a tire/alignment shop. His shop gets all my alignment work and also does state inspections.
 

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Its happend to more than one of us .It happed to me with a shop here in town where I just replaced everthinh in the front end right down to the unit bearings,then had to help get a buddy out of the woods and then took it tho the shop to have it aligned and theey told me that I needed upper and lower ball joints and the wheel bearings needed to be replaced.Gave me some kind of oprice alittle over 1000 bucks to do it all not knowing that I did thim like 2 days before.I just told him to pull it back off the rack and I woul take and find someone else that would do it and not try to redo what I had allready did 2 days ago.
 

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I always make it a point to know my stuff inside and out.

Happend to me also. I was at a local tire shop getting an alignment when the guy came and told me there was no way he could because the TRE on the draglink was totaly shot, and NEEDED to be replaced. He gave me some asinine quote and walked away. I then walked over, checked the TRE, and SURPRISE....it was as good as new! I then told him to take it off the hoist and left. Never been back. Always good to know your vehicle on a personal level :D
 

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Yeah ... even if you don't know your stuff inside & out, a healthy skepticism does come in handy. A local shop told me about 5 years ago that a wheel cylinder was leaking brake fluid, & not to drive the Jeep because it was dangerous. I didn't know from adam, but I trust very few, especially as a woman going to an auto repair shop. So I asked him did he top off the fluid. No, didn't need to. So how come there was no fluid in my driveway? It's leaking inside the drum and burned off as I drove. I didn't know much then, but when they quoted me hundreds for the repair, I knew I wanted a second opinion. I drove my "dangerous" XJ to another shop. The next shop took the wheels & drum off, called me over & showed me my brakes ... so dry inside that there was rust dust in there. Cylinder fully intact. Needless to say I'm done with the first shop forever. It's 15 min from my house, but following that fiasco I always drove 35 min to a shop I could trust.

BTW I just had the cylinders changed about 4 months ago, shortly before I got rid of the D35.
 

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You call yourself a "Supporting Member". You should be glad that you have a member like myself that wants to take the time to read over past posts. That's where the most information is. Would you make fun of someone that spends time in a library?
 
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