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What if John McCain were a former president of the Harvard Law Review?
What if Barack Obama finished fifth from the bottom of his graduating class?

What if McCain were still married to the first woman he said 'I do' to?
What if Obama were the candidate who left his first wife after she no longer measured up to his standards?

What if Cindy McCain graduated from Harvard?

What if Michelle Obama were a wife who not only became addicted to pain killers, but acquired them illegally through her charitable organization?

What if McCain were a charismatic, eloquent speaker?
What if Obama were a member of the Keating-5?

Educational Background:

Obama:
Columbia University - B.A. Political Science with a Specialization in International Relations.
Harvard - Juris Doctor (J.D.) Magna Cum Laude

Biden:
University of Delaware - B.A. in History and B.A. in Political Science.
Syracuse University College of Law - Juris Doctor (J.D.)

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McCain:
United States Naval Academy - Class rank: 894 of 899

Palin:
Hawaii Pacific University - 1 semester
North Idaho College - 2 semesters - general study
University of Idaho - 2 semesters - journalism
Matanuska-Susitna College - 1 semester
University of Idaho - 3 semesters - B.A. in Journalism
 

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So what you're saying is, two of them are Ivy Leaguers, who are known to be members of secret societies and posses latent homosexual tendencies, and the other two are normal, working class, under-educated people like 95% of America?

Oh ok, I get it now. :D

BTW, not voting for either. Just saying... I don't care where they went to school.
 

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So what you're saying is, two of them are Ivy Leaguers, who are known to be members of secret societies and posses latent homosexual tendencies, and the other two are normal, working class, under-educated people like 95% of America?
whew, and I thought this was a thread that supported democrats.

Nice info Bouncy... I love the republican party.




Have yall noticed the demographic that basically all souther states (florida is the exception) all vote republican this year.
 

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whew, and I thought this was a thread that supported democrats.

Nice info Bouncy... I love the republican party.




Have yall noticed the demographic that basically all souther states (florida is the exception) all vote republican this year.
Yeah I can't understand why all southern states would vote for an uneducated, adultier, with a temper, that will ultimately run the country in the ground. I am guessing southern folks stick together but not sure. :D Then again...why would I expect them to see who could actually fix the mess the last repub has put us into.
 

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whew, and I thought this was a thread that supported democrats.

Nice info Bouncy... I love the republican party.




Have yall noticed the demographic that basically all souther states (florida is the exception) all vote republican this year.
When do they not :D
 

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whew, and I thought this was a thread that supported democrats.
What I was getting at is... two of them are rich elitists and the other two are normal people, who (before they joined the political cash cow) fell into the same demographic as 95% of America. In short... they're us.

Still not voting for either, but if I were... it'd be for US. :)
 

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Obama has some ok sounding plans, but so does McCain. I am more scared of Obama's plans due to the fact that money is what runs this country and I am afraid of what I will have to start paying for stuff once he taxes the crap out of them.

Right now I am still sticking with the War Veteran.
 

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What I was getting at is... two of them are rich elitists and the other two are normal people, who (before they joined the political cash cow) fell into the same demographic as 95% of America. In short... they're us.

Still not voting for either, but if I were... it'd be for US. :)

Ok let me get this right.

McSame has 7 er 8 houses for a net worth about 6 million. Palin rips off alaska's citizens of tax money to fly her kids around. Does 150k shopping sprees and buys her daughter a $600 purse. All the while she is being investigated for trying to have her X brother in-law fired....And These are NORMAL PEOPLE...Holy Hell.

Isn't the president supposed to set an example for the country?? Educated, married to the same woman for years, leadership qualities, helping the people, raising kids, etc.

OR a mother with her 17 years old pregnant daughter, unmarried of course.

Yeah I think I got the picture right. Awesome seeing that america thinks that is Perfect pair to run the country. WOW is all I can say...WOW.
 

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Obama has some ok sounding plans, but so does McCain. I am more scared of Obama's plans due to the fact that money is what runs this country and I am afraid of what I will have to start paying for stuff once he taxes the crap out of them.

Right now I am still sticking with the War Veteran.

At least you didn't say Hero too.

The fact that he, or any POW, signed a document admitting to war crimes at any point during their imprisonment, in no way implicates them. They are taught to do what it takes to live another day. McCain signed confessions BEFORE being tortured!

United States Military Code of Conduct orders American military personnel to resist capture at all cost and if captured; to attempt to escape, to give the enemy no information other than name, rank, serial number and date of birth, to take charge if senior, to obey orders of the seniors, to accept no favors from the enemy and to make no written or oral statements disloyal to the United States.

McCain gave vietnamese U.S. military secrets. TREASON
McCain broke on day 3 and gave his father's name and rank. TREASON
McCain admits to writing letters denouncing himself and america. TREASON
McCain gave video anti american video interviews. TREASON
McCain gave his ships name location(?) and targets. TREASON
McCain attended special private meetings with interrogators. TREASON
McCain gave military info in exchange for many operations. TREASON


The fire on the Forrestal was caused by a inadvertant missile launch while planes were preparing for ops. The missile launch was caused by a faulty relay at the point where the missile is attached to the wing of the plane. Prior to lauch the planes were connected to generators to power up the engines. This surge, caused the relay to blow and the missile launch.

Surviving crewmen and those who investigated the Forrestal fire case reported that McCain deliberately 'wet-started' his A-4E Skyhawk to shake up the guy in the F-4 Phantom behind his plane

As to being flown of the carrier immediately after the incident, let review: What is the purpose of an aircraft carrier? All together now, "Launch and recover aircraft". The carrier could no longer support those operation, thus the entire squadran was transfered to another carrier.

The entire squadran was NOT immediately transferred, McCain was immediately transferred to another ship.
 

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At least you didn't say Hero too.

The fact that he, or any POW, signed a document admitting to war crimes at any point during their imprisonment, in no way implicates them. They are taught to do what it takes to live another day. McCain signed confessions BEFORE being tortured!

United States Military Code of Conduct orders American military personnel to resist capture at all cost and if captured; to attempt to escape, to give the enemy no information other than name, rank, serial number and date of birth, to take charge if senior, to obey orders of the seniors, to accept no favors from the enemy and to make no written or oral statements disloyal to the United States.

McCain gave vietnamese U.S. military secrets. TREASON
McCain broke on day 3 and gave his father's name and rank. TREASON
McCain admits to writing letters denouncing himself and america. TREASON
McCain gave video anti american video interviews. TREASON
McCain gave his ships name location(?) and targets. TREASON
McCain attended special private meetings with interrogators. TREASON
McCain gave military info in exchange for many operations. TREASON


The fire on the Forrestal was caused by a inadvertant missile launch while planes were preparing for ops. The missile launch was caused by a faulty relay at the point where the missile is attached to the wing of the plane. Prior to lauch the planes were connected to generators to power up the engines. This surge, caused the relay to blow and the missile launch.

Surviving crewmen and those who investigated the Forrestal fire case reported that McCain deliberately 'wet-started' his A-4E Skyhawk to shake up the guy in the F-4 Phantom behind his plane

As to being flown of the carrier immediately after the incident, let review: What is the purpose of an aircraft carrier? All together now, "Launch and recover aircraft". The carrier could no longer support those operation, thus the entire squadran was transfered to another carrier.

The entire squadran was NOT immediately transferred, McCain was immediately transferred to another ship.

Notice there is no links backing this crock of chit up.
 

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Ok let me get this right.

McSame has 7 er 8 houses for a net worth about 6 million. Palin rips off alaska's citizens of tax money to fly her kids around. Does 150k shopping sprees and buys her daughter a $600 purse. All the while she is being investigated for trying to have her X brother in-law fired....And These are NORMAL PEOPLE...Holy Hell.

Isn't the president supposed to set an example for the country?? Educated, married to the same woman for years, leadership qualities, helping the people, raising kids, etc.

OR a mother with her 17 years old pregnant daughter, unmarried of course.

Yeah I think I got the picture right. Awesome seeing that america thinks that is Perfect pair to run the country. WOW is all I can say...WOW.
Not saying they're perfect, and don't really care either way. But there's more people in this country with second marriages, knocked up teens, and retarded babies than there are who graduated from Ivy League schools, have trust funds, and love money. Those are the people who already run this country, why not give someone else a try?
 

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Not saying they're perfect, and don't really care either way. But there's more people in this country with second marriages, knocked up teens, and retarded babies than there are who graduated from Ivy League schools, have trust funds, and love money. Those are the people who already run this country, why not give someone else a try?
If you want to given someone/something else a try...They why vote for someone (not saying you are) that has followed Bush Jr. on over 90% of the voting so far. Sounds like the same song and dance we have seen for 8 years. Spend spend spend...let someone else worry about it.
 

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Sorry I was reading a bunch of links.

Here's one of them..

http://www.truthout.org/article/mccain-and-pow-cover-up

Another.

http://www.dinocrat.com/archives/2008/09/05/what-we-didnt-know-before/

And another

http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/02/06/6878

Just a few of the many links telling about McCain signing confessions during vietnam. An act of TREASON.

Looks like conspiracy theory sites.

Arn't those the same guys that still think we didn't land on the moon.
 

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Looks like conspiracy theory sites.

Arn't those the same guys that still think we didn't land on the moon.
Did you even look this time???

Last time I posted long winded statements with links for backing, you stated you didn't even read it and didn't care.

You didn't care about the facts I provided...thus your mind was made up no matter what. So in a sense, I gave up on trying to show you truths and realized that no amount of words will get past the YES SIR he is military so it must be right.

I would love for one election to have both repub and dem have a strong military background. I wonder then what/who the vets would vote for.
 

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If you want to given someone/something else a try...They why vote for someone (not saying you are) that has followed Bush Jr. on over 90% of the voting so far. Sounds like the same song and dance we have seen for 8 years. Spend spend spend...let someone else worry about it.
I doubt Obama will be much different. Bob Barr's ideas on spending (and the cutting thereof) are more on point with my views, and he's the only one that opposed the $700 billion bailout of rich douchebags.
 

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I would love for one election to have both repub and dem have a strong military background. I wonder then what/who the vets would vote for.
I would too cause I am not 100% repub I don't like either candidate but being a war vet like me i will follow my instinct and vote for McCain.
 

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I would too cause I am not 100% repub I don't like either candidate but being a war vet like me i will follow my instinct and vote for McCain.
Given everything I have typed here about his faults, you still support him?

What exactly do you have against the other people running?? Barr, obama, etc?
 

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I just don't know Barr and havnt seen anything about him...

Obama has changed his campaign so much there is a HUGE trust issue there. Also he lacks alot of exp.

I watch FOX so you can blame them for some of my thoughts lol.
 

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I just don't know Barr and havnt seen anything about him...

Obama has changed his campaign so much there is a HUGE trust issue there. Also he lacks alot of exp.

I watch FOX so you can blame them for some of my thoughts lol.
It's not too late to learn! You've still got five days. :D

http://www.bobbarr2008.com/issues/
 
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