[Yak’n-Wag’n (2001_XJ_2WD)]

That is a good question. If you do not have the wiring there already, I have had those power distribution centers apart to do custom wiring. Not hard. But I do understand that you want to be all OEM

I am no expert when it comes to vehicle electronics, so I tend to avoid adding foreign wiring when possible. Last thing I want to do is set my Jeep on fire lol

 

[Yak’n-Wag’n (2001_XJ_2WD)]

That is a good question. If you do not have the wiring there already, I have had those power distribution centers apart to do custom wiring. Not hard. But I do understand that you want to be all OEM

I am no expert when it comes to vehicle electronics, so I tend to avoid adding foreign wiring when possible. Last thing I want to do is set my Jeep on fire lol

 

[Yak’n-Wag’n (2001_XJ_2WD)]

Frankly I think it is more trouble then it is worth but like 4.3L XJ I get it.
So what I think I know.
Chances are there are no terminals in your PDC for the relays.
I am not sure why there are 2 relays by the way.
Anyway, so no terminals to me means no wiring.
Now you have bought the headlight harness for an XJ with fog lights.
It has big connector on the end that plugs in behind the driver's side headlight in the engine compartment.
So there are two wires on the connectors for the fog lights on the harness you grabbed.
Power and ground.
IMO first thing you have to do is determine if the wires for power and ground in the headlight harness have corresponding wires in that big connector behind the driver's side headlight.
If there are then you are part way there. If not you will have to repin that connector with some.
Here is the thing I don't know. Where they go from there.
And you could probably figure it out with schematics but it would take some work just to do that.
And if you don't have any wiring in the PDC, fuse box in the engine compartment by the way, you will have to split that open and add some.
Go here and download the FSM, Factory Service Manual, for the 2000.

XJ JEEPS | 1984 - 2001 Jeep Cherokees

XJ JEEPS; 1984 - 2001 Jeep Cherokees

xjjeeps.com

Even though you have an '00 I am betting that wiring schematic in there would still apply.
But it is going to take some work on your part to read them, figure out what wires you care about, and if they are there.
I say just wire them like aftermarket ones would be and call it a day.

Factory fog lights in an '00 XJ that did not come with them - Jeep Cherokee Forum

Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here - Factory fog lights in an '00 XJ that did not come with them - EDIT 1/13/18 So thanks to a fellow forum member there might be another way to hook up the purple wire for the 12V run source. See the very last posting for details...

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Thanks, Ralph77!!! That was quite helpful and I appreciate you providing the link for the service manual! I didn’t realize that manual was what I was looking for!
Looks like I need to look into the PDC to find out if I have terminals for relay acceptance there or not. According to the 2000 service manual in section 8O-1 (p. 511-520 on the downloadable copy) I should be able to pull the “relay cassettes” apart to find out if I have the correct wires or not. I’ll try to look at in in the next couple of days and get back to the thread for an update.
And yeah, just adding a stand alone relay with new wires and switch would be the simplest way, but I definitely want to look into the OEM parts. If it can be done, I feel like it should be done and I want to do it with the parts Jeep provided us as an option.
We shall see...

 

[Yak’n-Wag’n (2001_XJ_2WD)]

I know it’s probably a long shot those wires are there, but I really hope they are. It would seem it would have been easier for Jeep to make all of the PDCs wiring harnesses for all the the Cherokees the same and just change the headlight harnesses for the specific orders for each individual Jeep as they came across the production line but, I digress. I know Jeep would do weird things in the production line. I could be mistaken, but I believe my XJ was one of those weird things where it was made and sold as 2001 “Classic”, but (if I’m not mistaken) the “Classic” trim level was not supposed to be a 2001 option... Mine was manufactured 06/00 so it could be one of the earliest ‘01s.

Currently mine has some crazy bright LEDs in place of the halogen bulbs that the PO installed. I’m not sure how they are hooked up, but if I change the headlight harness to accommodate the fog light harness, I may go back with halogen bulbs and look into the the headlight harness upgrade for the light boost.

I am sure running the auxiliary fuse box will do just fine for whatever added lights and Knick-knack-patty-wacks you are looking to add, but for my application I want there to be no evidence mine was modified to have factory fogs. But, there again, depending on what I find, I may be doing it the way everyone else has been doing it since Cherokees and aftermarket relays have existed together..

 

[Yak’n-Wag’n (2001_XJ_2WD)]

Oh yeah, title says it is a 2001, VIN verified it as an '01 through insurance. Insurance had to label it as a "Sport" in their system because "Classic" was not listed as an option for the year. Both doors with the classic badges are original and has never been in an accident. So far, all of the "Classic" options hold up. Overhead compartment, all power windows, door locks, mirrors, front and rear map lights, manual seats, etc... Even has the "4.0 Litre" badge on the liftgate that I believe only made it on '01 models. '97-'00 should have said "4.0L" I even have the HO 4.0L with the coil on plug... I think she might be a rare bird that escaped, but that's only a guess. I just dropped a picture in the "Show y'lls rigs" threads.

 

[Yak’n-Wag’n (2001_XJ_2WD)]

Oh yeah, title says it is a 2001, VIN verified it as an '01 through insurance. Insurance had to label it as a "Sport" in their system because "Classic" was not listed as an option for the year. Both doors with the classic badges are original and has never been in an accident. So far, all of the "Classic" options hold up. Overhead compartment, all power windows, door locks, mirrors, front and rear map lights, manual seats, etc... Even has the "4.0 Litre" badge on the liftgate that I believe only made it on '01 models. '97-'00 should have said "4.0L" I even have the HO 4.0L with the coil on plug... I think she might be a rare bird that escaped, but that's only a guess. I just dropped a picture in the "Show y'lls rigs" threads.

Excuse me.. "What does y'all's rigs look like" thread

 

[Yak’n-Wag’n (2001_XJ_2WD)]

Limiteds are so nice🤤. Electric seats, door pockets, tan interior; oooo mama... right up there with the brairwoods!

 

[Yak’n-Wag’n (2001_XJ_2WD)]

Limiteds are so nice🤤. Electric seats, door pockets, tan interior; oooo mama... right up there with the brairwoods!

I really like the European tail lights too!

 

[Yak’n-Wag’n (2001_XJ_2WD)]

Those are heated/power seats. LOL. But are Agate cause I can't find any Camel ones.
But those CoverKing seat covers hide that for the most part. LOL.



Not European. European would still have amber in them and spot for the rear fog lights.
I liked the idea of getting rid of all the amber lenses, replacing them with white ones, up front and in back.
They are just aftermarket ones.

Oh yeah, I was just saying I like the European tails in general, lol
I know lots of folks like the clear lenses, but I love the amber ones against the PBT. I'm even looking into tinting the fogs a matching amber to offer more contrast and having more of a running light appearance. Just a film that sticks on and peals off if I change my mind.

 

[Yak’n-Wag’n (2001_XJ_2WD)]

Not that it really matters but are you sure yours is an '01.
Cause if I had to guess it is an '00.
Manufacture date of 06/00 seems a little early in the year to make it an '01.
If it were 09/00 or 10/00 then maybe.
Title actually says '01?
Any evidence that the driver's door might have been swapped out at some point?

Hey there Ralph,

Yeah, I looked into a VIN search and sure enough, my Cherokee is a 2001 Classic trim. Was manufactured in Taledo, Ohio and has never had any reported accidents. It definitely shouldn’t exist a a classic, but lo and behold...
Anyone else out there have a 2001 Jeep Cherokee Classic. If it has fog lights, it could very well be a unicorn!

 

[Yak’n-Wag’n (2001_XJ_2WD)]

Dan H nails the Fog Light Dilemma in this video.

looks like I will be forced to run aftermarket wires and relays for my fog install In lux of swapping harnesses, or cutting my harness apart to add add the correct wires for the relays in the PDC...

It’s possible to swap factory fogs into your Jeep, but you need the correct PDC harness along with the relays, the factory switch and the headlight harness.

😥

 

[Yak’n-Wag’n (2001_XJ_2WD)]

I have the switch panel with the OEM switch and the plan is to just swap that panel in and use that switch for the stock look.

 

[Yak’n-Wag’n (2001_XJ_2WD)]

This guy is the one going in. I haven’t taken the switch apart to see if the bulb has melted it and destroyed it yet, but if I need to, I can replace the switch with an OEM replacement switch and swap out the hot little incandescent bulb with an LED to keep it from getting to hot in the future.

 

[Yak’n-Wag’n (2001_XJ_2WD)]

This will be replacing the cigarette lighter for utility. Thought this was the best looking one on Amazon that might look like it actually belongs in the switch panel. We shall see...

 

[Yak’n-Wag’n (2001_XJ_2WD)]

Cool rocker switches!

 

[Yak’n-Wag’n (2001_XJ_2WD)]

Thanks for finding that video.
One of the things that I started parts hoarding is wiring harnesses.
When the come up for sale on Ebay I try to look at the pictures to familiarize myself with the connectors.
They never really show clear shots of the connectors though.
That video let me see a lot of the connectors that I have always been curious about.
Wish he touched on the main body wiring harness that runs in the Jeep.
The one that starts on the driver's side and runs towards the back.
Cause the one for a Jeep that has the Infinity Sound System is different then a regular one.
And I always wondered what might be different.
I also think the wiring harness in the dash might be different for a Jeep that has the Infinity System too but not sure.

But back to the topic at hand. LOL.
Hey you could still wire the Jeep to look factory for the fog lights.
IMO though the work involved, which I think would be immense, is just not worth it.
But while that is not plug and play he did touch on a bunch of things that are.
Like cruise control, overhead console, and heated/power seats.
At least in my '00 they were.

Yeah, I thought Dan H answered a handful of questions I had too. The one thing! The absolute one thing that I needed can not be added to a Jeep without replacing a freakin body harness.
FOLKS LISTEN GOOD!!! IF YOU COME ACROSS A LIMITED JEEP CHEROKEE IN A JUNK YARD THAT STILL HAS THE HARNESS RUNNING THROUGH THE ENGINE BAY AND BODY, FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THINGS HOLY, TRY TO SAVE AS MUCH OF IT AS YOU CAN! Even a sport or a classic that has factory fogs, save that too! Just a quick peak inside the PDC will tell you all you need to know. Someone will want those harnesses in the future! If you are doing a complete restoration of a Jeep, like stripped down to the unibody, acid dipped and repainted etc..., a limited harness along with the infinity wiring is what you want to put back, if you can afford it. If you have a limited from 97-01 or even a factory fog sport, consider yourself a really lucky Jeep owner and never let it go lol
Yeah, Ralph, it looks like I’m going the old fashioned way and wiring up my fogs the way everyone else does it. Just going to have to do my best to hide the wires and make sure my switch gets gets powered by a signal wire so the fogs turn off when I turn the switch off. I’d like to wire them to where they go off when I turn the bright lights on, but I will have to ponder on that for a bit. Perhaps that is the reason Fog light harnesses have two relays... so they can be turned off when the brights are activated? Just a complete guess there...
Going back to the Torx bolts... I have a nice torx bit set so I will just have to see how it goes when I go to install the fogs.

 

[Yak’n-Wag’n (2001_XJ_2WD)]

I also kinda thought that Jeep using 2 relays might have something to do with the fog lights going off when you turn on your high beams.
But never could confirm that. But I did not want them to do that anyway so.....
Plus factory fogs don't really throw that much light IMO.
The only reason I added them is cause I like the look.
So never really understood why the high beams would shut them down.

Little confused.
Do you mean you don't want to be able to turn on your fog lights without the Jeep running?
Even if you leave the switch on they would go off when you turn off the Jeep?
Cause that is more then doable.
I used a fuse tap in an open slot in the Junction Box, fuse box under the dash on the passenger side, that has power all the time.
Cause I wanted to be able to turn mine on without the key being in the on position or running.
If I leave them on and kill my battery that is on me. If I do something stupid like that then I get what I deserve. LOL.
But there is also a open slot in there that will only have power when the key is in the on position.
I wired my Ext Idle switch to that to power the switch so......

As far as the torx go I just don't like them.
They are used around the Jeep but in some places you have no choice but to keep them.
Others can be replaced by regular bolts.
They are easy enough to strip when in good shape let alone when rusty.
And most of us have to deal with rusty 20 year old hardware so.....
So again I say get rid of them now. LOL.

Yes, I do intend to make sure they go off when I turn the key off so that way I can turn the fog light switch on and never have to touch it. You know, that way they are sort of like constant running lights. I also plan to replace all of the switch bulbs in the switch panel from incandescent bulbs to white LEDs that way they can't get hot enough to melt the switches.
The original fogs I ordered came from North Carolina, but of course I can't be sure where in the country they spent most of their life. Again, we will just have to see how it goes when the install happens.
I know lots of folks are having to deal with rust as public enemy number one, but down here in Georgia, I cant really say the same. I have ran into some small places of surface rust, but generally the rustiest part of my jeep is the rotors when it doesn't get driven for a while. We are very fortunate for rotors being the only rusty parts down here in the south. Put it to you this way, I didn't know what POR15 was until after I was a jeep owner and other folks were talking about it online when I would look up things about the Cherokee.

 

[Yak’n-Wag’n (2001_XJ_2WD)]

Thanks Cantexian for the input
It’s looking like I’m having to reevaluate my entire plan. Definitely going to have to go with aftermarket wiring and all and yeah, I’m looking into replacing the bulbs and all for an overall better end result... I’ll be sure to post pictures and descriptions of what I have done with the fog lights. It may take a while because I have a stack of parts and replacement parts for the Jeep, but I will get to it eventually

I have an "00 Cherokee Classic. My factory fogs burnt out recently and I swapped them out for aftermarket LEDs. I completely respect your desire for OEM lighting. But, don't expect great lighting out of those factory fog lights. They are fine for looks but for actual lighting, they suck. Since it sounds like you will need to redo wiring, consider using better than factory wiring and using a stronger bulb in the stock fog light assembly. I considered this before going to LED. My stock fog light fixtures were both cracked in the glass and it was cheaper to go to LEDs anyway.
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[Yak’n-Wag’n (2001_XJ_2WD)]

If you decide to go with LEDs, I ordered this from Amazon. I was able to splice the wiring from the LEDs into the existing wiring from my stock harness. The kit comes with wiring if it needs to be run though. I am saving the wiring for future light additions since I didn't need it this time.

18 W Nilight LED fog lights

I think what I may end up doing is using theses if I’m not happy with the stock fog bulbs.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00QW8JP8C/ref=ox_sc_saved_image_8?smid=A2OPSQDEJW99K&psc=1

Just use these to replace to halogen bulbs and see how it goes. It would be much cheaper to go with some aftermarket fogs, like those you used, but I’m trying to go for the factory look.
That harness that came with your fogs: is it an aluminum wire harness? I’m curious if you have any experience with those and if they hold up for a while? I have a Spal Fan harness that is already ran through the Jeep and I’m thinking I may just use that harness for the fogs. Spal harness is currently used for the cooling fan, but I have a mishimoto fan relay with the temperature prob that will be replacing that set up. Tired of flipping a switch on to keep my Jeep cool. Lol